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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: Is this a UFO?
watch it carefully............I have no knowledge of long range or even medium range missiles can spiral that way in a short radius, it must have been sumthin else and a attempt of yet another Superpower that its their military activity.
I'm staying away from the vid about the light in the sky who knows and as far as I know there is no missile that has that tight of a turn radius that is land based _________________ May you be blessed in all that you do, just ask me first if you are going to do unto me.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:43 am Post subject:
Xal wrote:
Idk, it seems pretty convincing that is was just a missile.
well and what convinces you that its a missile.............I think I saw a complete defiance of certain laws of physics there and a missile is in complete compliance with the laws of physics. _________________ ARCHANGEL
There is a missile that can do those things it's called the AIM-9X which is an air craft based missile the one they claim it is is land based and utilizes the same sort of tech as the AIM-9X _________________ May you be blessed in all that you do, just ask me first if you are going to do unto me.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject:
Melindrose wrote:
There is a missile that can do those things it's called the AIM-9X which is an air craft based missile the one they claim it is is land based and utilizes the same sort of tech as the AIM-9X
Yes and AIM9X is a heat seeking missile.......for that matter an able pilot can make any heat seeking missile dance like that with a Sukhoi Su37 or F22 Raptor,on their tail.But this thing in the video is by itself and the Russians claim its their military property gone wrong..............what we see in the video is not the right behaviour of a missile gone wrong. _________________ ARCHANGEL
Idk, it seems pretty convincing that is was just a missile.
well and what convinces you that its a missile.............I think I saw a complete defiance of certain laws of physics there and a missile is in complete compliance with the laws of physics.
There's another forum I go to which deals primarily with ET's and people were posting articles that showed pictures of how a missile that would spiral out of control would create the same effect. I would try to find the article but the other board seems to be down atm. _________________ "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself" - Carl Sagan
There is a missile that can do those things it's called the AIM-9X which is an air craft based missile the one they claim it is is land based and utilizes the same sort of tech as the AIM-9X
Yes and AIM9X is a heat seeking missile.......for that matter an able pilot can make any heat seeking missile dance like that with a Sukhoi Su37 or F22 Raptor,on their tail.But this thing in the video is by itself and the Russians claim its their military property gone wrong..............what we see in the video is not the right behaviour of a missile gone wrong.
it would be a missile gone haywire, you know something wrong with the electronics that control it. _________________ May you be blessed in all that you do, just ask me first if you are going to do unto me.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject:
i can vouch for what melindrose is saying... i was a weapons guy in the U.S. NAVY.... ive seen footage of a missles control cloister malfunctioning... and it doing that... or even in the case of this LBM (land based missle) that the russians have... if the control system goes out... it cuts the engine... making the missle "dance" like that... then when it is able to regain control... IDEALLY the control cloister is supposed to kick back on and let it do what its gotta do... but its only speculation.... its interesting to think about _________________ "everything under the sun is in bloom and the sun is eclipsed by the moon"-pink floyd
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject:
I entirely oppose that this is a failed missile...............there are causes thats why I asked for a careful observation of the video.
Yes missiles do fail and spiral but this one is not that.........ask me why?? I am not a Govt. reg Airman.......but it so happened that some 4 yrs back in my college days I had the opportunity to be on board of a MIG31 as a visitor observer and the craft was being flown by my own uncle who is a flight lieutenant in the AF. MIG31 is an Interceptor craft,high altitude cruise and MACH+ speeds is its fort.....very similar to SR71 when it comes to applications.This plane was being tested for strategic defense upgrade, and had to measure up and intercept a Cruise missile system.I was in the second seat which was meant for radar and log and what else I dont know.The second pilot wasnt required that day as it was on auto datalogging.Right from the time we were airborne.......we were being updated about the stages of launch,the first and the second stages of the cruise missile was successful.The third stage,where we had to intercept the missile--called for a really thrilling experience.We were at very high altitude,pressure and oxygen support were on, and we were approaching a speed of around 1.9MACHs.The test warhead bearing part of the missile was flying diagonally to us.........Suddenly there was shout over the radio and what I saw was that the missile was turning towards us !!!!! My uncle suddenly dipped the plane,the thing missed us but kept goin in circles.....which can be called sprialling.Cold sweat on my brow and mind dizzying up wateva I saw in a matter of moments was that, there was a burnt leak in rear end of the missile, a huge thrust is making the the missile rotate but thats interrupted its linear path.The resultant momentum changed its line of travel and it kept spiraling while moving backwards and inwards !!!!! Seemed strange........and finally it did not blew itself,it lost all that fuel and fell out of its spiral orbit.My Uncle flew round and round to avoid contact and I was like "if I really could get out of this plane............" Finally we came down at the base and senior officers were all at me, 'are you alright','give him water',doctors checking my pressure and all those stuffs.While my uncle immediately vanished with some wing commanders and serious looking AF personnel, for investigation and briefing.
Now my call from this video is.............this thing is nothing like that.Russians claimed it their missile failure,European agencies termed it as failed BULAVA STA launched from a Russian submarine in the White sea. But very much unlike the spiral thing which I saw, the spirals of this thing kept its continuous luminosity,the spiral patterns were coming out or were originating from a central point instead of culminating into a central point(in case of a missile failure).Typical blue light.......in region of low atmospheric density-not probable for a prolonged time,it shud have been a multi spectrum color for the usual missile fuel used.And fried electronics or chips dont spiral any missile in radial pattern until and unless there is a sideway thrust.And a sideway thrusted missile to me, it is not.So what the hell is it?????
This is sumthin new.......if not a ET phenomenon,then definitely a new High entropy weapon of human make but not a failed BULAVA. _________________ ARCHANGEL
the Aim-9X has a turn radius that is tighter than any other missile that the military acknowledges having (meaning any other that is in full use) and the Russians put the same sort of design into a land based missile which has a lot more fuel is it a BULAVA STA probably not. But it could be it's hard to tell, when I first saw this vid on yahoo I said I would do my best to keep from speculating; but either it's a missile or it's some sort of propelled flair if it's terrestrial. If it's not the we have proof of ET's _________________ May you be blessed in all that you do, just ask me first if you are going to do unto me.
I fear nothing and everything.
A fool thinks he knows everything a wise man admits he knows nothing.
The demon vid IMHO is fake. Why would two men, walk into a forest at night unless they were drunk on stoned? Plus why would they also take a camera which is fairly good at night vis and may even be a dedicated night vis camera. I say night vis because of the green hue of the camera which to me suggests it was using a very sensitive mode of visible light, or using the aid of an infra-red light source.
Also the actions of the "demon" are not consistent with what one would expect. Firstly the mean obviously made noise as they made their way to it, secondly the demon's eyes are reflective suggesting it is very good at night visibility (think cats eyes) thus with the amount of noise they were making, the demons sensitivity to light and the fact they have some sort of torch i would say the demon would clearly know they were coming from a mile off. The fact that it sits there motionless and then it's only movement is the cliched quick twist of the head to look straight at the camera and then the film ends also suggests to me it was a fake.
The second vid IMHO is shakey too...
On a paranormal investigation those present should be willing and able to face a spirit, regardless of intent and not be scared. This is where most haunted fails. I accept though that this one is a little freaky but in all honestly, if you were to go to a haunted place to seek evidence of spirits and you saw a figure in the corner would you not call over those with you to verify the sight and then approach (somewhat nervously) to discover if it was a doll, a coat etc... You certainly wouldnt close the door and turn away, that is just ridiculous.
RE the spiral light i am not sure either way. There is a strange beam of light that targets the center of the spiral. This could be a search light but i dont know why they would illuminate it like so. A missile could conceivably spiral in a similar way due to a fuel leak in the side of the missile near the exhaust which is ignited by the temperatures thus providing thrust in a sideways direction. Assuming the thrust from the leak and that of the exhaust i would say that the missile could spiral.
A spectacular spiral light show in the sky above Norway on Wednesday was caused by a Russian missile that failed just after launch, according to Russia's defense ministry.
When the rocket motor spun out of control, it likely created the heavenly spiral of white light near where the missile was launched from a submarine in the White Sea.
The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that a Bulava ballistic missile test had failed.
[for full article, click on link above]
. _________________ With Love and Gratitude, Elisa
A spectacular spiral light show in the sky above Norway on Wednesday was caused by a Russian missile that failed just after launch, according to Russia's defense ministry.
When the rocket motor spun out of control, it likely created the heavenly spiral of white light near where the missile was launched from a submarine in the White Sea.
The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that a Bulava ballistic missile test had failed.
[for full article, click on link above]
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If all Government trash was to be believed............there would have been no aliens n UFOs forum on EUTM today.Nowadays governments all over the world are trying to do what religious leaders used to do in the medieval ages.Kill witches,trash Galileo in order to keep their own supremacy and to take advantage of certain things.I wont have discussed even a word about wat we saw in that vid if I were to buy the fact that its a failed Bulava project.And Bulava in anyways is a failure missile...........umpteenth times failure!!!! A missile with such mal tech wont awake a country from its nightime nap to grab with such pomp in the sky.BULAVA STA has failed before many many times both in day n night and near civilised sectors within limits of Russ air space.........such an incident was never reported b4 wid such an extent......
am just jottin down my views nothin personal.PEACE. _________________ ARCHANGEL
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