QUESTION ABOUT DISCERNMENT...

[Disturbia]

I have been in verbal contact with various people who are no longer in the physical for a few years. It has been a growing process and my ability to do this has approached what I see as something of a 'peak' in that I can hear so clearly and can 'reconnect' with people I've talked to in the past by simply asking for them. Also, I have worked on a murder case where a young man was abducted and murdered....and here we have the present issue....

I am, of course, very close to this person after having so many sessions with him learning specifics he wanted past to the private investigator. (By the way, I became linked with this PI because this young man had given me some specifics to share with his familiy in order that they recognize the reality of his presence....I had no idea if these would actually 'trip' anyone's trigger as they were things I had no way of confirming. Obviously there were some startling things there that caused the father to pass my correspondence on to the PI. This went on for months and months and was a daily thing for me. .... um...I lost my thought I believe...oh....I am naturally close to this young man and I have kept in contact with him (especially on holidays, his birthday, and so forth) and I tell him, as I tell the others I've known for a long time (children and adults) that I love him. NOW of all things (after NEVER having a negative experience in connection with this spirit communication, I suddenly am being approached by this person/spirit who is 'jealous' of the young man?!?!?! He is always saying things such as 'why do you love ..... and not me?'.(and believe me, his 'idea' of love is totally sensual --- he talks about what I am wearing and what I am doing and what HE wants to do to me)...keep in mind that I don't even know who this is and he has NOT tried to tell me anything along those lines. To make matters worse, this manipulative person has been attempting to impersonate OTHERS who speak with me routinely. I can tell the difference in the voice, of course, but I am very annoyed that this is even going on at all. (Also, when he starts with his 'stuff' if I just ignore him, he ends up saying, "You're a dead woman"...and "You'll be sorry"....some people I know that are involved in shamanism AND occult practices are telling me this is a demon. I have no idea as to how I can discern whether this is true. I know that people who have passed from this life retain their basic personality...so a troublemaker is going to be making trouble on the other side as well. I think some people jump to the 'demon' conclusion a little too quickly....but I DO need to get some feedback on this.

Has ANYONE had an experience that is in anyway similar to this? I would appreciate your input.

[One Walker]

I have never had a first-hand encounter like this but I know others who have. I seriously doubt this is a demon and agree that it is a passed person who has retained and chosen to embrace this negative aspect of their personality. I would protect myself from an attack for one thing. Second, I would firmly send this entity from my presence whenever he shows up. Let him know in no uncertain terms that his suggestions and comments are totally unacceptable and will not be tolerated.

One Walker.

[level]

I have a suggestion that might help you. Instead of ignoring individuals that communicate with you from the Spiritual Realm I urge you to take a different more involving approach. Try to make the discussions to the next level, doesn’t matter who is talking to you. Try to be creative and listen carefully to what they are saying, most of the time those interactions are designed to test you and evaluate your current understanding and intellectual baggage. How far you go in their matrixes is entirely up to you. On that note, have you had visions yet? There is a whole new level after the voices which I am going to keep to myself for now so I don’t potentially ruin it for you. And remember that they are looking for individuals that have the potential to be elevated to their universe. If someone ignored you when you were speaking to them how would that look to you? There is a whole process when it comes down to communications with the Living universe. Ever wondered how they talk to us? This is a hint. It is not as simple as picking someone and speaking to them.
Personally my interactions with the Spiritual plane started different than you and I am surprised at how your initialization of tests has started. I was first showed a vision from where I was evaluated based on interaction capabilities. But then again my case is different. Ask questions or make discussions that will make them initialize the next test. Hearing voices is the very basic interaction that they measure us. As for the demon thingy, it is just a categorization created by us to pinpoint curtain action patterns in individuality. Their categorizations are more advanced than that but I can tell you one thing, the whole heaven and hell concept exist up there but is completely different from what we think it is. And it is an art. My second advice is to put all your interactions with spirituality in a different box than your life and leave it to run at bay so that it does not completely interfere with your life here on the living plane, unless you think you can handle extreme pressure.

Have fun and I hope you find what you are looking for. I have. It is good that you shared with us a portion of your experiences with the spiritual plane.

[Kassandra]

I have never had a first-hand encounter like this but I know others who have. I seriously doubt this is a demon and agree that it is a passed person who has retained and chosen to embrace this negative aspect of their personality. I would protect myself from an attack for one thing. Second, I would firmly send this entity from my presence whenever he shows up. Let him know in no uncertain terms that his suggestions and comments are totally unacceptable and will not be tolerated.

Good advice, One Walker.

Disturbia, it sounds like you are a very skilled medium. I think your interpretation of this second entity is accurate, "a troublemaker is going to be making trouble on the other side as well." That's pretty much it. This guy was a punk who harassed women on this side, and has not attained to much development since going to the other side. Ignore his threats. Work with your spirit guides to escort this guy out of here. I'm surprised they're letting him get through to you in the first place. If you're going to be doing this kind of work, you really need to work in concert with your guides.

Especially with police work. You will expose yourself to a lot of "hitch hikers." They have nothing better to do than harass open people like you. You need to be shielding yourself better. Watch episodes of "Psychic Detectives," if you haven't already, with Nancy Webb, etc. Those ladies are not the fuzzy, cozy "just send them loving, white light and it'll all be alright" kind of mediums. They're more like tunnel vision "we're gonna find who killed this guy, and the police are gonna throw his ass in jail"-kind of attitude. So low-levels stay away from them.

Those mediums take no prisoners, and they make it clear they're not going to take any shit from low level entities. That's the presence you have to project. Right now, when he comes at you with that "you're a dead woman" crap, you back down. You're showing him that you fear him. You have to stand up for yourself. They have to fear you more than you fear them, or you should avoid that type of work altogether. Take care of yourself. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I think your assessment is correct about that spirit. That was a great post.

[Disturbia]

I appreciate all of this feedback....you cannot possibly know how fortunate I feel to have found your forum!