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Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:05 am
by barker
Raven for war, not for truth - that's me.

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:51 pm
by Firebird
barker wrote:Raven for war, not for truth - that's me.
Why the FLOCK would you say that?
Ravens have been long known for speaking the truth and being the foretellers of truth. Do not post garbage Barker. :twisted:

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:18 am
by barker
Werl, let me say that the truth is a given! But at war I am private.

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:59 am
by Corbin
firebirdflys wrote:Why the FLOCK would you say that?
Ravens have been long known for speaking the truth and being the foretellers of truth. Do not post garbage Barker. :twisted:
Hmmm... Morrigan? Babd? Bran?

All associated with conflict and its resolution actually - one, but not the only purviews of these deities. The wisdom of Crow is the wisdom from the otherworld yet its lessons are learned through the crucible of change; life's battlefield.

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....and carrying always within, as is fitting, the shadowlit, whispering, marefaced, catfaced, owlfaced, ageless huntress and thrice queen, who musing in blood whistles and whirls her hounds and ravens, beyond all sacrifice craven and unrhyming, nailed in a blackthorn tree lest horned eyes be blinded by the tomb of the lightlessness in the charm of the halcyon dark....

At this, our grave and Christian clerics in alarm avert their pens. Womenless men crooked in the cloister of their age .... but poetry declares it differently.

Older yet and lovlier far, this mystery.... and I will not forget.

- Five Denials on Merlins Grave by Robin Williamson (Exerpt)

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:02 pm
by Firebird
I realize these birds were the carrion crew at the battlefield, and nothing can be truerer than death. As I understand the Morrigan would seduce one to the other side, and in death you have perfect Knowledge.
firebirdflys wrote:
barker wrote:Raven for war, not for truth - that's me.
Why the FLOCK would you say that?
Ravens have been long known for speaking the truth and being the foretellers of truth. Do not post garbage Barker. :twisted:
barker wrote:Werl, let me say that the truth is a given! But at war I am private.
No more word salad Barker, Changing your statement is a complete 180, please stop.

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:03 pm
by Corbin
Cock your head, Jim Crow.

Defender of the realm.

stalwart guardian,

cowled sentinel,

elder in years,

leader by right,

Four score years and four.

Knocked thrice,

beyond the third door,

returned from Father’s hall,

to whisper a secret a king forgot.



Strength is not enough.

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:49 pm
by SapphireRoad
Corbin wrote:The wisdom of Crow is the wisdom from the otherworld yet its lessons are learned through the crucible of change; life's battlefield.
The crucible of change i.e. battlefield. Yes, fight is expression of struggle, is life.
Corbin wrote: stalwart guardian,
cowled sentinel,
So it was Odin's messenger and sentinel of some sort too?

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:24 am
by Corbin
The world is composed by layers of symbol and metaphor.
SL wrote: So it was Odin's messenger and sentinel of some sort too?
Standing between the world and the otherworld. Gatekeepers and Psychopomps. Yet I have no experience of Odin (other then to use thought and memory - Odin's Ravens - as a poetic device).

In the piece above which I wrote an age ago it may help to know the Hall I refer to is Bendigeidfran's (Bran the blessed or the 'sacred crow').

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:33 am
by Firebird
That piece is lovely Corbin, thanks for sharing
Corbin wrote:Bendigeidfran's
I wassn't familiar with this word, how do you pronounce it?

Re: Ravens and Crows

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:08 am
by Corbin
firebirdflys wrote:That piece is lovely Corbin, thanks for sharing
Corbin wrote:Bendigeidfran's
I wassn't familiar with this word, how do you pronounce it?
In phonetic's: BEN-di-GEID-fran.

One of the easier Welsh pronunciations.
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The Crows followed me home today,

from gambrel to gable they swooped,

perch to perch,

keen liquid eyes.

A parade from roof to roof.



A carefree uproar,

A unanimous caw,

Returned with a salute.