Veronica_Rose wrote:Hi Seraphin
Thanks so much for that link to the conversation between you and ness. You and ness had a very interesting conversation, with many point that I liked, and I read though the whole thread.
Also, thank you for posting your thoughts. I love hearing from you! You say things in a way I understand, but also make me think, and that's wonderful. I value your opinions highly.
Thank you, that's very nice of you to say.
Veronica_Rose wrote:I'm kind of grasping this... Okay, so perhaps higher selves not at the same level as God/Goddess... But, you're saying they're similar to them. Although your higher self is similar, the God and Goddess (Or any other Deities) are much much more than the higher self...? I've heard the word "source" or "divine source " used before in reading. Does that mean, like God/dess? Are they the source, or is the whole ether/spirit realm the source is referring to?
Sometimes I tend think too literally, but I'm trying to wrap my mind around things in a way I'll try understand. I've been asking big questions lately, and I know most of these topics are more open ended to opinion, and require more thought from my part to develop my own theories about the world. I highly appreciate everyone who's been replying to my topics lately; especially you, Seraphin, because you've replied a few times to my topics, and like I said, I like they way you explain things, and the stories and advice you've given. All the responses I read really help get my gears moving!
You're asking a very deep question Veronica but I love it.
I believe that our Ori is divine in nature, I actually I believe it's an Orisha in its own right. Yes, I believe Ori is kinda similar to Them but the Divine Spirits are very different and much Higher though I believe we could achieve that state if we begin to live a sacred life (just like Gautama Buddha, Virgin Mary and some other enlightened/ascended human beings who now treated as Deities from many religions).
The Divinity within us expressed in many ways:
The physical body of man, is a reflection of the Divine attributes which prevail openly in the spiritual worlds, and in a concealed manner in our world. In Kabbalah, the shape of our body is similar to the placement of the divine sefirot (attributes). We have a right side and a left side because the Divinities can express Themselves in two ways, right (kindness) and left (severity).
Our free-will is also a sign of divinity. All other creations (animals, plants and even stones) are doing exactly what they are programmed to do, and they can't change their natures. Only us who has an Ori has the ability to grow, mature and change, because we're a reflection of the Divine, who's unlimited.
Because of our Ori, we have the ability to forge a relationship with the Spirit and Divine Realm, transcendent dimension of existence.
As for source, when I say it, I'm referring to the Divine Source; the Force connects everything together and holds the Cosmic Order.
Veronica_Rose wrote:
I think that sounds like a logical goal. I also like what you said in the thread with ness about finding who you really are. That's a tough question! I don't think most people realize that, but it is, and finding yourself just sounds like it makes sense to do. If not in this life time, eventually. Isn't it in Hinduism that the goal is to break your cycle of rebirth? If you find out who you really are, does that mean you've done that? Like, I think I've heard the term Enlightenment. Is finding yourself Enlightenment?... I had a random *thought about Hinduism today during school, and looked it up. (*It wasn't really even like a thought per se... It just came up. I wasn't doing anything in class, so just I Googled Hinduism.) I've read a little bit about it, and I still am.
I ask a lot of questions... haha
A number of faiths and disciplines teach that principle actually including Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Kabbalah.
I believe there are three ways of life on the ladder of enlightenment or ascension (as I learned many folks believe in or prefer the term ascension than enlightenment):
First is when we're awoken and can see the realities of life. Our sight is joined by a great light from the Deities and/or Orishas, so that eyes stay on our path and journey, with mind, words and our body working together to reach our destination. There are many levels to this step, but all are within the reach of everyone. This is where I believe I'm at and perhaps some other folks here.
Then second is when we finally have the desire for the Unity of the Infinite Light; the "Oludumare". With this inner/higher desire, we overwhelm the egoistic/selfish desires, until they're diminished. This again knows many levels, but all within the realm of our Ori -- something not every person can reach in a single lifetime.
Third is the ultimate point: Where our inner/higher desires of our Ori become itself a Divine force -- an Orisha. Then there will not be any more darkness, for we will have revealed how all darkness glows. This is the stage of a time to come, but it will sprout from the seeds of our sufferings, struggles and difficulties in darkness or what the Yoruba tradition call "Ese".