How to Share the Gospel with a Pagan
I will anser this for you Sercee. Red read the post weare the other people. It is not us that was lied to, and he was caught in a lie in the very first book of the bible. Enjoy it.
Our gods do not need to lie and when they do usally it is proven later that it was because they wished us to learn something on our own. Our gods tell us what is right and wrong in our hearts, and as long as your heart holds it as true, so will the gods.
Our gods do not need to lie and when they do usally it is proven later that it was because they wished us to learn something on our own. Our gods tell us what is right and wrong in our hearts, and as long as your heart holds it as true, so will the gods.
Red wrote:Is that definitely true? Perhaps we might say that there is objective concrete truth out there that is true no matter what we think about it.Storm wrote:Truth is subjective.
Pontius Pilate asked Jesus your same question, "What is truth?" But Jesus had already said what it was in His prayers the night before: "...your [God's] word is truth." (John 17:17)
ZZzzZZZzzz... oh.. sorry.. what? Sorry about that, I seem to have nodded off while you were talking. How very rude of me.
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Now now kids play nice. Red is being very polite and actually wanting to "debate", rather than argue, try doing the same. (this isn't aimed at everyone, just a couple.)
Red: To answer one of your previous questions. I personally turned away, not because of the scriptures but of the way I was being told I had to interprit them. The Bible in an of itself, is full of very good teachings and much to ponder on in regards to faith, regardless of your beleif. I just became fed up with the blatent hypocrisy I encountered. That's why I started searching for my faith.
I chose Wicca because it made an incredible amount of sence to me. It mirrored very close to things I observed and theorized on my own, even though some of it was things that my former religeon said I should never think about. It also placed God in a place I had never felt before, inside me. For the first time, here was faith that I was allowed to practice on my own whenever I felt the want or desire. The methodology was intimate if I so chose.
I finally felt as if I could touch the face of God if I wanted to without fear of my church declaring me bad for having thought to do so.
If Christianity is what your heart tells you is true, so be it. I wish you peace and good fortune. But Solitary Wicca is what my heart is telling me is true. When we die, we'll finally know what is the "real" truth, but then again, at that point it's kinda moot. I just live to make the life around me better for myself and the others who have to live it with me.
Blessed be.
WW.
Red: To answer one of your previous questions. I personally turned away, not because of the scriptures but of the way I was being told I had to interprit them. The Bible in an of itself, is full of very good teachings and much to ponder on in regards to faith, regardless of your beleif. I just became fed up with the blatent hypocrisy I encountered. That's why I started searching for my faith.
I chose Wicca because it made an incredible amount of sence to me. It mirrored very close to things I observed and theorized on my own, even though some of it was things that my former religeon said I should never think about. It also placed God in a place I had never felt before, inside me. For the first time, here was faith that I was allowed to practice on my own whenever I felt the want or desire. The methodology was intimate if I so chose.
I finally felt as if I could touch the face of God if I wanted to without fear of my church declaring me bad for having thought to do so.
If Christianity is what your heart tells you is true, so be it. I wish you peace and good fortune. But Solitary Wicca is what my heart is telling me is true. When we die, we'll finally know what is the "real" truth, but then again, at that point it's kinda moot. I just live to make the life around me better for myself and the others who have to live it with me.
Blessed be.
WW.
The greatest advice I was ever given: It matters not what you believe. Only that you believe it wholeheartedly.
Wolfwitch - I was very polite at first, before it became most obvious that Red came here to proslytise - in fact he admitted as much to me. He ignored requests to stop doing so.
Hence... I stopped being polite.
Here are just some of his comments:
I am a christian doing what christians do when I go out witnessing (preaching, prosilytizing, evangelizing, etc.) online or on the street. It is my religion. It is no different in principle than when you do what pagans do when you pray or conduct ceremonies in private.
Just as you try to pay us respect by not coming to christian forums, I pay you my respect by coming to yours and talking about Jesus.
Pontius Pilate asked Jesus your same question, "What is truth?" But Jesus had already said what it was in His prayers the night before: "...your [God's] word is truth." (John 17:17)
The offer of friendship with God through His own death and resurrection. The path is by no means walked alone, and the point of it all is never the path or the summit (there is no summit, there is no mountain), but God Himself who is walking next to you is the point, and then those you come alongside. In a few words: reconciliation and friendship with our Maker whom we have betrayed. That is higher than any teaching our spiritual state.
Hence... I stopped being polite.
Here are just some of his comments:
I am a christian doing what christians do when I go out witnessing (preaching, prosilytizing, evangelizing, etc.) online or on the street. It is my religion. It is no different in principle than when you do what pagans do when you pray or conduct ceremonies in private.
Just as you try to pay us respect by not coming to christian forums, I pay you my respect by coming to yours and talking about Jesus.
Pontius Pilate asked Jesus your same question, "What is truth?" But Jesus had already said what it was in His prayers the night before: "...your [God's] word is truth." (John 17:17)
The offer of friendship with God through His own death and resurrection. The path is by no means walked alone, and the point of it all is never the path or the summit (there is no summit, there is no mountain), but God Himself who is walking next to you is the point, and then those you come alongside. In a few words: reconciliation and friendship with our Maker whom we have betrayed. That is higher than any teaching our spiritual state.
The article is so great. I'm printing it off, so I can read it to my dad's new girlfriend. She is very Christian, and she nows I'm not. I would love for her to read it, maybe it would explain me a little better. She's not trying to shove her religion down my throat, but she also doesn't accept my religion, and she subtly sends me E-mail about Jesus, and repenting. I know she doesn't agree with my religious choice, I just want her to accept me.
Thank-you
Thank-you
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Having searched the rest of the threads involved, I apologize for my chastizment. I was unaware of the scope beyond this individual thread. Let it not be said that I admit an error.
Exilus, thank you for showing me the other threads.
Exilus, thank you for showing me the other threads.
The greatest advice I was ever given: It matters not what you believe. Only that you believe it wholeheartedly.